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Amalthea
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Posted by Amalthea, 18:10 9 February 2008

Folks,
I'm wondering if I'm alone in this. When I'm angry, I can't express myself. I tend to cry!

This is SO unhelpful when I'm trying to make a point. I lose my credibility and I make the other person just want to get away rather than work things out with me.

I've been angry with doctors lately, too... and the last thing I want to do is end up crying in the doctor's office. I've got an appointment this week and I'm going to have to try to emphasize how bad my asthma gets when I go to visit my parents and am around their six cats. This new doc gave me a few meds and said, "You won't need prednisone" and is refusing to give me a script. Well, I HOPE I won't need it... it'd be a miracle if I don't, frankly.

So, all I've got to do is just make a point. When I feel strongly about anything, I end up crying.

I'll read books you have to recommend about this, I'll look into therapies you suggest... just give me something to go on and tell me if you've ever been there, done that! I feel pretty alone on this one.

I wonder if it's the brain fog, the fatigue... but frankly, I'm not ready just to chalk it up to depression and say there's nothing I can do about it. In any case, I wonder if it's related to the SAD. Anyone else?

Thanks!

Heather
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Posted by Me, 18:41 9 February 2008

Ive spoken to Amalthea privately, but to those of you out there that recognise the symptoms - check out a candida albicans website. The resemblence is striking.

Me x
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Posted by sandyb, 18:50 9 February 2008

Hey Heather

It's so frustrating isn't it!!!! When I'm angry and I cry I can't speak and can't stop crying which gets me even angrier! I end up looking like some hysterical freak!

I've noticed as well that I get angrier more often when I'm anxious or depressed. Normally I let everything just float over my head but in winter even the slightest thing (people bumping into me, loud noises)can get me furious! Perhaps I need anger management classes!

Take care of yourself Heather!

Sandy x
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Posted by Amalthea, 19:01 9 February 2008

Me,
I think it might be worth getting tested for the candida. It's a possibility and honestly, the symptoms overlap those I associate with SAD and Fibromyalgia.
I hope you don't mind me sharing this, but you list symptoms as:


* recurrent or chronic infections of ladies bits or urinary system
* recurrent or chronic infections of the skin especially around nails athletes foor or psoriasis
* Depression especially in women with a continual feeling of tiredness - suggesting a tired immune system such as inability to concentrat, poor memory, headache, pms, explosive temper outbursts, lack of coordination irritability, drowiness, loss of self confidence, crying spells, loss of reasoning ability or inability to sleep.

* Cravings for sweet and carb rich food - yeast nutrients are cheese, bread, yeast alcohol . You could crave an item you are allergic to,.

* Symptoms aggravated by tobacco smoke, car or diesel fumes, perfumes or other chemical odours.

* Symptoms worse on damp, humid days or shile in damp humid conditions.

* persistant digestive probs. common in men, heartburn, indigestion, bloating and gas, abdominal distension and pain, constipation, diarroea or both,

* Recurrent sore throats, nasal congection or cough

Other vague symptoms are pain and swelling in the joints, pain or tightness in the chest, blurred vision, spots before the eyes, ringing in the ears, cold extremities or just feeling 'plain poorly'.

Patients suffering post-viral syndrome or myalgic encephalomyelitis have also found an improvement in their condition following the anti-candida diet - which suggests that yeast may be apart of their misery too.
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Posted by Amalthea, 19:14 9 February 2008

I thought I'd start a new post so my response doesn't blend in with what's posted above.

I can't seem to find information on my own about anything but vaginal yeast infections -- which is not the systematic infection we're talking about here.

I'll see if I can get checked. As I understand, it ought to be part of the process for determining if I do have fibromyalgia or not. Fibromyalgia is not a problem you can do a single test for, but you have to rule out a lot of other problems that could be causing the symptoms first. I'll mention it to the rheumatologist and see if it's part of his tests. Thank you for your help, Me.

In the meantime, though, I would love to hear other people's responses, too. If it's not candida albicans, then I suppose it could be related to SAD or Fibromyalgia or just be my lovely personality. ;)

Sandy - you're so right... lately, I've been telling mom that I'm angry at every little thing. Wanted to rip off the deli clerk's head the other day because he closed down the seafood counter early and I REALLY wanted my salmon! My thoughts were:

"Geez, he's lazy! The guy who normally runs the fish counter would take better care of me. That fish is just under a bit of paper -- they didn't even put it away in the back yet!"

Then, I thought, "He has no idea how hard it is for me to make a trip to the grocery store! I walk everywhere I go, and I've been hurting so much with the fibromyalgia and the cold weather. It's really not fair."

I wanted to go to the manager because they really never do close down the seafood counter that early... but I didn't have the energy to bother going to the manager.

So, I don't know if I blew it out of proportion, but I wanted to cry because I was angry and frustrated and it's been hard for me to get out and do my shopping lately.

I'm usually not an angry person... one other time when I got this quick-tempered was when I learned that my blood pressure was at a point that I had to be medicated for it. The docs have only said it's been "slightly elevated" lately... but then I've had anxieties about dealing with doctors because of the fibromyalgia misdiagnosis and how much pain I was in when the doc found trigger points. I don't want a doctor to cause me to hurt that badly again in the exam, so my blood pressure jumps before an exam. Go figure!
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Posted by Me, 20:15 9 February 2008

I know where you are coming from Amalthea. I used to get it for two weeks every month. Under control now though. Evening primrose used to help me out then.

Me x
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Posted by Me, 22:00 9 February 2008

Amalthea

Try 'Candida Albicans' (candida for short)

Me x
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Posted by Me, 22:10 9 February 2008

Amalthea
Just found another it of interesting info in my candia albicans book...
'Cortisone-type drugs usually prednisolone, prednisone and betamethasone are used to relieve immune system disorders which may be manifestations of an underlying Candida imbalance'.

A single course of any of these medications can encourage a temporary flareup of Candida infection without causing any untoward effects. However, these medications, being for chronic conditions are often taken for years at a time and are sometimes taken in combination. All encourage yeast growth.

It goes on to say that they should be avoided whilst doing the candida diet, but thats up to you. Get as much info as you can. So maybe your new doctor is wise to candida



EASY CANDIDA ALBICANS TEST
Also read on the internet...
To find out if you have candida you can do a simple home test that has been fairly reliable to determine if candida is a problem for you.

In the morning when you wake up, before you do anything else, work up some saliva in your mouth and then spit it into a glass of clean water. Wait for about 30 minutes then check the water. One of four things may happen. If there are strings coming down from the spit floating in the water or if the water is cloudy or speckled then you may have Candida. If you don’t have candida the saliva should just float on top and the water should stay clear.

' You cant always believe everything you read on websites, but if this is true, then it will definately help someone out there'.

Ive just done one and got the dangles!! looks like I might have it again.

Perhaps some readers might like to have a go too to see if everyone has the same result or not - Im really interested to see if SAD and this candida albicans test can be connected.

Remember Im no doctor, just curious!!

Me x
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Posted by PurpleIvy, 11:46 10 February 2008

Amalthea, what I'm saying will sound harsh, but I mean it in the kindest way.

You have mentioned lots of times that your parents have 6 cats and that this is a major problem for your asthma. Maybe it's time to get assertive (in a positive, firm, kind way, not aggressive and unpleasant) and address the problem.

As I see it there are various ways and probably some that other members could suggest that I haven't thought of. The following points came to me.

1. Don't visit your parents house if it's a problem. Either have them visit you or meet somewhere nearer to their home if they can't get to you.

2. DO they realise how much distress the cats are causing you? I don't think that I would keep pets that were causing my children such a problem.

3. Your health is the most important thing to you. If they need your help at all, you won't be any good to them if you aren't in good health.

Someone I knew used to get very upset going to her parents house. I encouraged her to be assertive about the situation and she improved it for the better by addressing the problem. THe parents (specifically the mother) used to upset her by putting her down all the time. She felt that she had to visit because they 'needed' her to. In the end she was polite and assertive about the situation, telling them that unless they stopped treating her like that then she felt unable to continue visiting.

Guess what? They started to be kind to her and appreciate her for the lovely person that she is! They decided that it was better than missing out on the weekly visits.

I know this isn't the same sort of situation, but I'm sure you feel unhappy about visiting because of the discomfort it causes you. I'm only mildly allergic to just some cats and I know how uncomfortable it can be. FUll blown asthma must be really difficult. I would imagine that even if the cats aren't there, the fact that they've been there is a problem.

Maybe I've said enough.
Amalthea
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Posted by Amalthea, 12:36 10 February 2008

Ivy,

I've talked with them about the cats. They had a housefire in early 2005, lost all their pets. I very gently suggested... please, anything but cats. Now there are six.

Things might be different if I drove. I don't drive. I can't afford a car and the costs of owning a car. And part of me lacks confidence in my ability behind the wheel. It might be my fear of the brain-fog that has held me back, I can't pin it down... but I've just never had much of an interest in driving. Until recently, I felt my health was benefiting by my walking everywhere -- I expect the fibromyalgia and my back problems are going to force me into having to drive. Not many people would tolerate/manage carrying their groceries home...

Mom's disabled. Dad kind of keeps her at home as much as he can because he "doesn't want to spend the extra gas money" and "it would cause extra wear-and-tear on the vehicles" and because she buys things when she goes out. The cats and dogs are her world. I've fought my father tooth and nail over this.

I know what you're saying. I've had doctors tell me that I should get a hotel room if I'm going to visit... but there's no way this would be allowed... or could be afforded. My parents up until recently completely denied that I was allergic to cats. Now, I don't think they see how hard it is on my body -- I break into sweats, I feel like going from room to room is exhausting, it's a nightmare without prednisone.

I still bring up the cats, but it's a moot point. There are six... they'd never dream of giving them away. I've gotten emotionally attached as well.

Ivy, you're totally correct, but I put up the fight in the past... Even after all their animals died in the housefire. The more I fight about it, the more cats they get. :(

Heather
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Posted by PurpleIvy, 17:48 10 February 2008

It's not being a non-driver that is bad for your health, that is obviously very good for your health, you said you felt the benefits.

It's the animals that affect your health. I know you say that a hotel room can't be afforded, but I don't think you can afford to keep visiting the cat household, as it impacts on your health so much, especially if your doc won't prescribe the meds you need to help.

Enough!

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Posted by Amalthea, 20:11 10 February 2008

Ivy, wish I knew what to say. I love my parents. I hate the situation. Mom's in poor health and I wouldn't think a 28-year-old would end up thinking so much about what life will be like without mom. Dad's a steelworker, very dangerous job... He holds in his anger like I do. He had a buddy lose both his legs two years ago. They don't budge on the cat situation. You won't get me to budge about visiting.

What I do need is a productive way to express anger and frustration despite my habit of becoming tearful... The doctor was really just an example... I hate becoming tearful in front of the doctor.

My father holds it in, and I'm watching him on his way to a heart attack.
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Posted by Me, 20:26 10 February 2008

I suppose your head is telling you that you can cope with the situation as it is. Because if you couldnt cope, you would most certainly do something about it.

I suppose its the 'age ole story' - reach rock bottom before doing something about it. Really chuffed to hear that you have not reached that stage yet... If you do reach rock bottom Im sure that your brain will tell you exactly how to solve the problem, and you will act on it too. As we all strive to feel better. But do you really want to wait that long!

I suppose sometimes we have to think of ourselves first, but as we are so sensitive we automatically regard other peoples feelings to be more important. You will find a way when the time is right flower.



Hugs

Me x

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